Klasik Müzik - Beethoven-10. Senfoni

regrettably only 1 movement long while Tchaikovsky's '7th' is complete...ha

أصبح الضلام في بلدي يكبر ويتسع إلى أن أصبح لدينا بصيص نور ، يحيا شباب العراق

HELLO FELLOW SCHOLARS!!! WHO'S GOING TO ToC?? 😄🤚

the allegro sounds much like Mendelssohn..and Beethoven, of course.

There are several parts similar to other Beethoven symphonies, particularly the ninth. It is possible, in my opinion, that some fragments are original by Beethoven but other connections are crude and far from Beethoven's fineness will probably have been written by the same Cooper trying to imitate Beethoven's style.

هوناك بوح لا استطيع ان أبوح به ، فأصبحت الموسيقه عالمي الذي يحتضني هوه ملاذي الوحيد

I am sure that all that views is because of WSC

beautiful. i even cry

Beethoven's genius was contagious. Had Ludwig lived a longer life, the music world would've hemorrhaged his illustrious symphonies. Kudos!

There are so many mysteries in the world.... including the incomplete tenth symphony

Reyis bu bütün kompozisyonu tek başına sen kendin mi yazdın yaa helal olsun sana reyisssssssssss sinaptik orgazmlar yaşıyorum reyissss

We still have John Williams, who will be remembered for centuries.

this looks like brahms.

Who is more genius einstein or beethoven

You can't compare them. They were both geniouses, but in different ways. Einstein was a genius of math and physics, Beethoven was a genius of music.

@My Dog is Scriabin you are absolutely right.

SCHOLARS???? WSC????

I’m only 10 an I love Beethoven is that weird?

Kirby Gru for me yes

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On sent l’émergence du diable dans cette symphonie, sacré compositeur...

This song is sooooooooooo borinnngg

My face when I saw my parents having sex at 4:46.

In the 1970s, Londoner Rosemary Brown caused a sensation when she claimed that dead composers were dictating new musical works to her. Debussy, Grieg, Liszt, Chopin, Stravinsky, Bach, Brahms, Beethoven, Schumann and Rachmaninov were all queuing up to get their compositions through to her, she said. An obituary in The Guardian said: "While most mediums claiming to receive music extrasensorily from deceased composers do so through improvising at the piano, Rosemary's distinctive achievement lay in being able to write it down."Reportedly a mediocre pianist herself, Brown even channelled a 40-page sonata from Schubert, as well as Beethoven's 10th and 11th Symphonies. One Liszt expert, hearing a piece she claimed to be communicating from the composer himself, said: "We must be grateful to Mrs Brown for making it available to us."

Beethoven is back!!!

The theme that enters at 2:18 is divine... if only Beethoven had composed a entire movement or work to that theme.

Documentary of Mr S Ramanujan brought me here

Everyone's talking about Beethoven's life being shortly-lived, but the legend goes that most classical composer's died after their 10th symphonies, deeming it cursed.

Uma pena! Musica ser interrompida para comercial. Lastimável

Thought Beethoven work sadly ended with 9th symphony.. apparetntly, not :)

Happy 420!!!

is like beethoveen with out balls

Vine aquí por Jordi Maquiavello :v

😉 Yo igual 👍

Quien es ese

I believe Mr. Cooper should write a symphony. Some of the modulations in this piece seem to be his. Remarkable!

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The material doesn't sound symphonic at all. It lacks symphonic scope. It sounds more like the material in an Overture. The idea that after writing the powerful slow movements of the final piano sonatas, quartets and even the Triple Concerto or Violin Cto that he would write incidental music like this for his next symphony is absurd.

Whether this is considered a hypothetical work or not, elements of it that prove that the sketches it's taken from could only have been written by one person. It deserves recognition and Mr Cooper deserves congratulation.

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discord using wsc peeps? well then may god and wumpus be with you.

oh...i forgot...and may alpacas be with you too.

god help the incast

wow amazing ! if this is really the tenth beethoven's symphony, then it is a jewel

abdou sifelhak, yes, this was composed by Beethoven, but he died before complete this.

what a karizma face

COOPER HAS BUILT A BEETHOVENIIAN HILL OUT OFFRAGMENTED MUSIC..NOT A MOUNTAIN ...I THINK.🔊🔉🔈🔇📯📣📢🎺🎻🥁🎹🎸🎷🎵🎶🎚🎚🎼🔕

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The first and last movement sound similar to the violin concerto's first movement.

who is listening to this beauty firstly cause of the worlds scholars.

Me. Need any help with science?

I has a kind of Brahms mixed with Schubert vibe to it

Thanks to mercury beethoven died young

hey wsc

Omg his face here looked like mine if u hear terrible music XD

luckily, you finically can’t hear bad music

Llegué aqui por la pelicula de S Ramanujan 😁😁😁

Is so sad

Sounds more like Mendelssohn.

wsc guys

that's why i'm hear

Cooper did well with what he was given...i can't help but feel it's an inevitable step back...it reminds me of Brahms considering his first symphony was to lead on from the 9th...i have a love hate relationship with Brahms...and Mahler...dont shoot me

WHILST MY FELLOW AQUAINTENCES LISTEN TO JOJO SIWA AND POOED OF PIE AND SUCH, I A PROSPEROUS 9 YEAR OLD INDULGE MYSELF IN THE JOYS OF THIS PLEASUREFUL SYMPHONY. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE DAYS WHENST PEOPLE LIVED OFF THEIR CELLULAR PHONES AND ENJOYED THE TRUE BEAUTY OF THE MOST MONUMENTAL ERA IN MUSICAL HISTORY.?I AM ASHAMED TO CALL MYSELF A 9 YEAR OLD.................... WHERE HAVETH THE GOOD DAYS GONE? WOE IS ME.................. like if u agree

scholarssss !!!!!!

most people wont hear this but you can definitely bits of mozarts jupiter slow movement in these fragments.

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Meeeeee

OH MY GODS MEEEE!!!IS ANYBODY COMING TO THE DURBAN GLOBAL ROUND?!?! IF YOU ARE PLEASE LEMME KNOW!!!!

anyone going to toc now

Who is here because of WSC?

wsc brought me here

Well i knew the song before... good luck tho hope to see you at globals....

@Adrian Menezes sure!

Un gran compositor

S. Ramanujan me trouxe aqui

Whether all these fragments were meant for Beethoven's 10th or not, Cooper definitely did a good job arranging them into a movement of Beethoven sketches. It sounds believable for a 10th symphony. Asides from the fact that I have found letters or diary entries that Beethoven wrote saying that he was planning on writing a 10th Symphony, this music also makes sense for a 10th Symphony. Beethoven's symphonies followed a trend: symphonies 3, 5, 7, and 9 are very dynamic, while symphonies 4, 6, and 8 are less dynamic. Therefore, since this music is not as dynamic as Beethoven's odd numbered symphonies, it would make sense to assume that it was for his 10th symphony.

esta incompleta esperando que alguien muy especial la toque y la convierta en una puerta que lleva hacia Dios físicamente :)

Great work, however, if Beethoven had've written a 10th I strongly suspect it would have been a complete departure from anything he had written before, just as the 9th was, but possibly even more so. The horse had bolted and was running wild in the field.

I commend the excellent work here by Barry Cooper. My only quibble is that stylistically this appears to have more in common with Beethoven's earlier works than his later works. I think a 10th Symphony, written after the 9th, would be reflective of the more unconventional sound world evident in the late string quartets and late piano sonatas. Yes, it would probably be lyrical rather than titanic (to fit Beethoven's custom of his even-numbered symphonies), but it would be more of an introspective lyricism, pushing Classic boundaries of harmony and structure. That is what I don't hear in this work.

gosh, the first 4:45 seconds is absolutely beautiful. Mr. Cooper has performed a great service!

I meant the first four minutes and forty five seconds, obviously.

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How is this connected to world on the margins?🤔

I think Beethoven would approve of this rendition. Very well done, Mr. Cooper

Beautifull

I almost feel like the meat is all beethoven but the garnish seems to be an imitation. has the free flowing form of his late quartets. i enjoyed listening to this a lot.

Sounds like bad Mendelssohn

If this had been found as a completed manuscript, and put forth as assembled sketches. I think you would still have a lot of people rip into it just because they could. Let's just be happy that a skilled musician and historian gave us more than a glimpse into Beethoven's last thoughts.

This might be fake

Dad: Old things are better. Me: Pffff. (10 years later) Me: Fuck my dad was right.(Just a joke, not everything old is better.)

If Beethoven finished this one and made the official piece for it, this could have been a divine piece of music. Maybe better than the 9th or 5th. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than BTS 😂. Anyway kudos to Mr. Cooper for gluing together the notes Beethoven wrote and recording it. Beethoven would be proud 😄

What does this have to do with BTS??

This is beauty in its purest form. Bakunin said to wagner this is the only piece of music that would survive.

I think Beethoven would've composed similar to this 'hypothetical' work. Perhaps, even, a true and authentic likeness. I think Barry Cooper has, actually, assembled this '10th Symphony' very intelligently. I like it!

yeah-the- meat hoven

I came here as it is told to us that Ramanujan's lost book findings were related to find Beethoven's 10th symphony. No lie!!!! But I love Beethoven's Sinfonia 5!!!!

pure mud

It has a few interesting passages but it sounds more like someone trying to imitate their idea of Beethoven, than an actual Beethoven work. In general it is repetitive, has long boring passages, very simple orchestration, not a lot of subtlety. If not for its general repetitiveness, it could pass as a fair imitation of a Brahms symphony

It's great to hear the themes that Beethoven had in mind. Of course Beethoven's symphonies would at times seem to lift off the ground as if by magic, but this piece is still on the runway.

For the first 4 and half minutes Beethoven is playing around and then he thinks, okay, time to make things more interesting.

Is my favorite song. Thanks

A little reminiscent of Brahms

it's miracle mind

For the people that sais that this synphony dosn't sound to Beethoven at the slow parts I have two things to say you:1. This is a recunstruction of some sketches and some proably were for another movement that could be an adagio like the third movement of the ninth synfony2. He expresed madness in some of his music and that dosn't mean that he has to allways express it (he can also express other emotions, he is human!)

Not sure I'd quite say it's Beethoven when it reaches the main section - it feels too Romantic! Beethoven, in essence, stayed very Classical to the end of his life - listen to the coda of the Grosse Fuge to see what I mean. Some of this feels almost Brahmsian, with some Schumann or Mendelssohn in there as well.That's not to say it's not Beethoven at all, nor that it's bad (I like it a lot; listening to it again right now), but it doesn't necessarily feel like something Beethoven could have written.

Sounds not unlike the German national anthem...

This music sounds like sketches of several different movements. Strung together, they are a bunch of expositions and are not yet developed into a cohesive work.

His last symphony supposedly before his death.

I accept this is really Beethoven 10-Th. symphony.Maestro Barry Cooper did really very difficult work to find and understand the Beethoven’s sketches.It was not finished but it doesn’t matter also us Mozart ‘s Requiem the same situation difference is only that after Mozart Requiem wife Constance should finished is because Mozart already got the payment for his Requiem but Beethoven wrote it for himself.Why it similar with real Beethoven?Because the theme of Symphony No 9 Adagio also piano sonata Patetique also many Beethoven’s slow movements have similar atmosphere and melodies also the scherzo is typically Beethoven’s scherzo also it sounds and harmonically more higher than Symphony No 9 it going more and more faraway from classical music like XX century music,same as in last Beethoven’s string quartets No 13,14 in his last pieces Beethoven’s music complete different with that music which he composed before Symphony No 9,I can say just his Symphony No 4 the beginning also piano concerto No 4 similar with his last works.The problem that many orchestras now have scare to accept official that it really Beethoven’s No 10 I think it’s pity .in future it will be acceptable I am shore about it.I am going to perform it someday too.Maestro Cooper and orchestra that perform this piece on this recording Bravi! Thank you very much for downloading.

Both the andante are very similar to the adagio cantabile of the 9th.

I just don't think this material was intended to be symphonic. It sounds like late string quartet rejected themes. Beethoven filtered so much material in his creative output that a lot of stuff never made it to a finished stage. This assembled piece is an interested project, but please don't call this the 10th symphony. Beethoven composed 9 supremely well-crafted symphonic works each with their own identity. This work is frankly dull and wonders without a compass.

This would have been one of his best compositions had he completed it, no doubt. If this is what a bunch of sketches sound like pasted together, the full thing would have divine

ceci est un bidouillage , même l' orchestration est muvaise